
Oh please!
Somebody has got hold of the fact that it actually costs money to hire an organist for a wedding.
I have read the article and it is not fair for an organist to charge £300 (although I do not know what the going rate is in a cathedral). However the tone of the article really p*sses me off especially when the RSCM say they support the reduction in fees.
First of all, videos have been used at weddings for years certainly since the mid 80s when I was heavily involved in playing for them. What is more, organists do not charge fees directly, they are set by the church and passed onto the organist (I have been an organist at many churches who set the fees). When I was a teenager in the 70s I used to get £2.50 for a wedding. Gradually it rose to £25 by the 80s and then to £50 by 1989. This was when I first heard of the practice of doubling the fee for a video. You see it all falls under the heading of mechanical copyright, PRS, PPL and that sort of thing which I agree is an area which seriously needs sorting out in the church. [Would you believe that composers are supposed to get special permission to set biblical or prayer book words to music? I doubt that this is generally known but I digress.]
As for blaming organists for the fact couples are shying from church weddings; that's just silly. They think nothing of paying for horse-drawn carts, limousines and all the frills of a wedding but they do not consider the organist.
Here are the facts.
A wedding usually lasts about 30 minutes possibly 40 and sometimes 45 (I have been marooned in a wedding for 90 minutes was was not best pleased.) Brides can be up to 20 minutes late too!
If a wedding is at 1.30, as many are, and I live 10 miles away then in order to provide music before the service I need to arrive at 1.00 at the latest in order to unlock, find pages, change my shoes, collect an order of service (another expense and these are usually full of misprints). Were I to be the choirmaster there is more to do and an earlier arrival time is required. I would not expect to leave the church until 2.30 at the earliest.
Setting aside the fact that my lunch time is ruined, as I need to grab an early lunch (at say 12.20) and change if I am to be on view (as some consoles are) I have to set aside in excess of two hours.
My time as a private singing/piano teacher is £24/hour which is actually dirt cheap these days although I am about to increase it. So we have £48 already. Add on 26p/mile for the car = £5.20 not to mention the journey I may have had to make and time I may have had to spend practising special music (although I grant you that 95% use Wagner's Bridal March and Mendelssohn's Wedding March, or Widor's Toccata - there isn't a lot of originality).
In some cases (although it has not been my experience, other than a quick chat after a morning service) the organist may to consult with the bride and groom.
So, you see, I feel a fee of £50 is justified and I have to pay tax on it. My day has been ruined (or at least broken up) I cannot go out for the day (weddings are usually on a Saturday) unless I get a deputy who will expect the same fee. At my last church there was a flat fee of £100 for a wedding and this was charged whether or not there was a video.
As for paying a musician who is not going to be present, the point is this. When a church advertises for an organist to take on a post (e.g. in the Church Times) they mention the remuneration for the job and the usual number of weddings/funerals an organist can expect; this can often 'justify' to the church a low overall remuneration. Thus, if the bride's own musician turns up then the resident organist has lost a fee.
Somebody has got hold of the fact that it actually costs money to hire an organist for a wedding.
I have read the article and it is not fair for an organist to charge £300 (although I do not know what the going rate is in a cathedral). However the tone of the article really p*sses me off especially when the RSCM say they support the reduction in fees.
First of all, videos have been used at weddings for years certainly since the mid 80s when I was heavily involved in playing for them. What is more, organists do not charge fees directly, they are set by the church and passed onto the organist (I have been an organist at many churches who set the fees). When I was a teenager in the 70s I used to get £2.50 for a wedding. Gradually it rose to £25 by the 80s and then to £50 by 1989. This was when I first heard of the practice of doubling the fee for a video. You see it all falls under the heading of mechanical copyright, PRS, PPL and that sort of thing which I agree is an area which seriously needs sorting out in the church. [Would you believe that composers are supposed to get special permission to set biblical or prayer book words to music? I doubt that this is generally known but I digress.]
As for blaming organists for the fact couples are shying from church weddings; that's just silly. They think nothing of paying for horse-drawn carts, limousines and all the frills of a wedding but they do not consider the organist.
Here are the facts.
A wedding usually lasts about 30 minutes possibly 40 and sometimes 45 (I have been marooned in a wedding for 90 minutes was was not best pleased.) Brides can be up to 20 minutes late too!
If a wedding is at 1.30, as many are, and I live 10 miles away then in order to provide music before the service I need to arrive at 1.00 at the latest in order to unlock, find pages, change my shoes, collect an order of service (another expense and these are usually full of misprints). Were I to be the choirmaster there is more to do and an earlier arrival time is required. I would not expect to leave the church until 2.30 at the earliest.
Setting aside the fact that my lunch time is ruined, as I need to grab an early lunch (at say 12.20) and change if I am to be on view (as some consoles are) I have to set aside in excess of two hours.
My time as a private singing/piano teacher is £24/hour which is actually dirt cheap these days although I am about to increase it. So we have £48 already. Add on 26p/mile for the car = £5.20 not to mention the journey I may have had to make and time I may have had to spend practising special music (although I grant you that 95% use Wagner's Bridal March and Mendelssohn's Wedding March, or Widor's Toccata - there isn't a lot of originality).
In some cases (although it has not been my experience, other than a quick chat after a morning service) the organist may to consult with the bride and groom.
So, you see, I feel a fee of £50 is justified and I have to pay tax on it. My day has been ruined (or at least broken up) I cannot go out for the day (weddings are usually on a Saturday) unless I get a deputy who will expect the same fee. At my last church there was a flat fee of £100 for a wedding and this was charged whether or not there was a video.
As for paying a musician who is not going to be present, the point is this. When a church advertises for an organist to take on a post (e.g. in the Church Times) they mention the remuneration for the job and the usual number of weddings/funerals an organist can expect; this can often 'justify' to the church a low overall remuneration. Thus, if the bride's own musician turns up then the resident organist has lost a fee.
As for the final paragraph:
The Church is changing the way it attracts couples in the lucrative wedding market as it tries to compete with civil ceremonies held in venues such as stately homes.
What is that all about? Is the church now a business?
This is all madness.
My father used to tell the anecdotal story of a TV repair man who charged £40.03 to fix an TV by simply adjusting a trimming screw. When challenged his reply was "It's 3p to turn the screw and £40 for knowing which screw to turn".
The Church is changing the way it attracts couples in the lucrative wedding market as it tries to compete with civil ceremonies held in venues such as stately homes.
What is that all about? Is the church now a business?
This is all madness.
My father used to tell the anecdotal story of a TV repair man who charged £40.03 to fix an TV by simply adjusting a trimming screw. When challenged his reply was "It's 3p to turn the screw and £40 for knowing which screw to turn".



